replies about abortion and soul retrieval for children

"Perhaps if you did your research instead of following blindly the right wing, born again religious ratbags, something may come from your mouth that reflects the majority opinion of the population"
(one very angry reply!)

I can hardly say I was surprised by the abuse that came as a result of posting my investigations into the field of abortion, miscarriages and stillbirth. These are, of course, not new ideas and not all my material. But it's little discussed and there's little help for women who are trapped because of the after-effects.

Yet women (the ones who have HAD an abortion) seem VERY angry that anyone dares comment. As you will see below, there were some vituperate replies. But to me, it's just the guilt and pain hanging out. Women who deny this issue exists are simply condemning themselves and countless others to unnecessary pain.

My concern is that the issue be aired, openly and honestly, and that every woman finds her peace -- not through denial -- which never works, but through coming to understanding and releasing the spirit of the child-that-never-was.

Contrary to the crude insults, I do know what I am talking about. Plenty of women see it the same way as I do, as you can see also from the selected replies.

If you read my page again, I think you'll agree I did a fair job of avoiding moral and religious cant. I am only concerend that here is a deep level of healing that is being largely ignored by alternative doctor gurus and it remains the speciality of a few brave and skilled women to bring their sisters through it.

And if there is a child spirit, as I think these recordings demonstrate, then that too needs releasing, for full healing to take place.

It's not making moral judgements whatever about the rights and wrongs of abortion, only reporting the clinical consquences.

More to the point: this is not JUST about abortion. The same effects are observable for stillbirths and miscarriages. The latter, as you know, are very common indeed. But many still leave their psychological mark.

Perhaps if you did your research instead of following blindly the right wing, born again religious ratbags, something may come from your mouth that reflects the majority opinion of the population. I know dozens of woman who have had miscarriages and abortions. Not one of them have the emotional baggage to which you refer. (As though you'd know.) The feelings of which every one of the wonderful woman that I know, including myself, felt a great weight lift from our shoulders, plus an incredible sense of relief. So until you know what pushes any woman to take that step, try minding your own business.

Some "relief" it must be, when she can't even bear the subject to be voiced without going into this pained diatribe.

Another demanded I give away all the research recordings free (as if I haven't given enough away on over 2,000 pages of Website!) When I said NO, even Decca and Columbia charge money for their recordings, she replied: You sound like a very unspiritual person to me.

Please know that you do not speak for all women. What I received from my abortions was this:

1) great relief and happiness (99% gratitude for abortion and 1%
mourning if that)
2) the ability to continue college again more gratitude

But then the psychic tiger grabs her by the throat and she deteriorates to this:

Only my right winged fruit cake ex-boyfriend still has issues with our decision, but of course, he is brainwashed by his fundamentalist mythology-following Jesus
crusaders!

Clearly you are trying to capitalize on the abortion issue. Have at it, but please unsubscribe me from your list. This issue is a waste of time. Abortion is legal; it will always be legal, and we don't need videos and books about lost souls.

If that isn't denial of the existence of child souls, I don't know what is. Not much healing for the father here!

It's amazing how these women simply did not read what I have written. I do not join the moralizing humbug of both the "Pro-Choice" or "Pro-Life" camps. My only interest is in love and healing.

And I come to this from a purely spiritual viewpoint. There ain't no medical science in this territory. It's all about inner knowing and wisdom.

Fortunately, there were those to salute my stand too. Here's a note from one of my former students at the California Institute For Human Sciences:

As a former student at CIHS, I wanted to respond to this. In my past as a nurse practitioner I worked briefly in termination clinics, it led me to reassess my beliefs. I would see the fetus on the ultra sound and feels something

I could not explain. This was before I had any training of energy bodies and I was a very left brain nurse, so I didn't have the language to understand this feeling that the fetus was communicating to me, I just felt I needed to acknowledge that they
were seen, that someone knew they were there in a different way than their mother.. so I would do just that, acknowledge them, and say goodbye.

I could see the pain that the mother was experiencing as I walked them down the hall, and also that they were in denial just to get through it.

I felt the energy and at times nearly fainted while performing the cervical block, ( which made no sense as I had done this hundreds of times.) Now I believe it was the spirit leaving the body.

I found a book on past lives and abortions at that time which helped me deal with it and made some sense to me.

Later after my training as a therapist I was able to use that book with clients as a way to reframe what had happened to them. But you are right it is one area that no one ever brings up, women do not go into therapy to deal with this, they have to be in denial to get through it.

I appreciate your efforts, am a bit concerned about some of the descriptive language as it may guilt them further. Some of these fetuses chose the mother because they only needed to go that far and not come in completely.

The kind of moving reply that makes it seem worthwhile to campaign into the teeth of a hurricance of moral outrage...

Do you mind if I tell my story about this? I had an abortion about 33 years ago mainly out of fear and shame. Life was hectic and it wasn't until my other children were grown that I had time to sit down and even think about it. For some reason I know it was a girl, I have two sons and a daughter living. I am a Christian and I asked forgiveness. I was opening my front door and was given a split second vision of heaven where there were all these children being brought up in pure joy. This gave me great peace.

I had rarely given this a second thought until many years later again I had a terrible incident with my living daughter and for the first time I felt the presence of my other daughter. Her name is Emma, she didn't say it, I just seem to know. It was indescribable. She is pure love, joy and compassion. She stayed with me about a week just to comfort me.

Last year there was another incident where my eldest son was in danger and again I felt her presence, this time only briefly because she said she had to go and be with the other two. These words were not audible yet the words were very clear on the inside. This was the only thing I heard her "say".

I thought about her having to leave after and thought that only God is omnipresent so she cannot be in two places at once. I don't know how it works, all I know is she is aware of our pain and suffering and has the capacity to bring peace and healing. It doesn't "fit" with my Christian beliefs but the experiences have been real and beautiful and brought me great peace. She was meant to be and she is with us.

Until I read your piece I had forgotten about her again. Some people try to invoke spirits and contrive to make contact. I have never done this. At the times I have felt her presence it has been totally unexpected and she has been the last thing on my mind, yet I cannot explain either how I know that I know that it is my daughter, and she loves me..

Now there's a thought. Our children brought up in the pain of the world bring us all kinds of grief... But imagine the family reunion the other side. My children know about the abortion but I haven't told my kids about what I have experienced with her. They would think me crazy.

If this can bring hope, comfort and peace to others then please use it. My own personal belief is that there is only a veil between the sensory world we live in and the spiritual world but it is all in God and He loses nothing, forgets no one and can turn what we think is our worst, and return it to us as His best.

It was only after my week with my daughter that I saw what an integral and important part of our family she is as I could envision her with my other children bringing peace and healing, because she is pure love.

I am sure they miss "something" in their lives but eternity is forever, what we have here is gone so easily and astonishingly quickly. I see it all coming together in a glorious way we could never imagine. Pass it on.

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I read it and almost replied when you sent the original e-mail. 4 years ago I lost my only son in a car accident. I belonged to a religion which states you must be baptized to get in to heaven. He was not and for a long time I worried that he was "lost" and stuck here. It was heart breaking-on top of heart break.

So, when you told other women who have had an abortion, miscarriage, or still birth, telling them that either because of their actions or because they had done nothing wrong except lose a child, that the child is stuck here, adds much heart break to what they already had or have.

You did by what ever good intentions, cause pain, and it did look a little like it was for profit. I do not believe that is what you intended or that it was for profit.

I'm not saying you are correct, incorrect, or wrong. Your words were just hard to read. I think you have to lose a child to realize that pain.

On the other hand, if a child is stuck here, it would even be sadder.

I am a nurse by occupation, have not had an abortion, but have lost a child. It's the saddest thing anyone can ever live though-and many no, all are never the same.

Thank you, [name withheld by me]

Thank you again for your courage in exploring this painful and emotionally-charged topic.

It is sad to hear/see the anger-with-no-where-to-go in some of the responses you received, but hopefully a seed has been planted that will help break through the denial so that these woman can find true peace, instead of a peace that's clearly very dependent upon no one discussing/exploring the topic.

If you have a moment -
I'd like to share a bit more on this topic - in the spirit of spiritual exploration.
I will preface this with disclosing that I am a Roman Catholic, and I hope I am never in the position of having to make such a heart-wrenching decision regarding abortion. I certainly don't condemn those who chose to have an abortion, but I have come to believe that both the woman and her unborn child are being used and victimized in a larger spiritual battle.

I didn't want to raise this during the call-in time, as it might have inadvertently caused someone to back away from a healing path because of the Christian connection in my stream of thought.

I once heard a priest (on radio) give this explanation of what is going on at a different spiritual level, and found it an interesting perspective, simple...and a bit unnerving:

Sometimes when children are arguing, one cruel method used is to mock the other child's words...by repeating them back. This priest (radio program, I don't have a name) suggested that this is exactly what is going on with abortion. That some very dark spirit has taken the most precious words spoken in Christian scripture "This is my body, given for you..." and has put these words "This is MY body" in the minds/mouths of many women and has used these words to justify a pretty horrific event - mother against child...and this is done by the dark spirit blinding the mother to what is actually happening...so she is victimized twice.

Your program with Gwen stirred something deep within me, and I have been trying to figure out what/why I was so drawn to this topic...as I have not had an abortion. I think I have come to understand since your program. As a teenager, I was active in pro-life activities in my church, and in my early 20s I saw a movie - Silent Scream - of an abortion taking place shown with ultrasound. For me, there was no denying what was happening and that the baby felt what was happening. I have come to realize that I am still deeply mourning the poor baby shown in this film. I also wonder whether I have had an unknown pregnancy and wish I had been available the day of the healing show with Gwen.

Anyway - just wanted to offer this perspective for consideration as one more level of what might be happening as we search for spiritual ways of healing for these victims. I love the gentle method of healing you and Gwen Jones have presented on your program for these people, who may very well be spiritual prisoners-of-war.

Best regards, [name withheld by me]

Very good topic. As a fellow health care practitioner I have watched the prescribing of medications to blunt the after effects of broken/wounded souls. These wounds came from the psychic tear that occurred during such situations, intentional or not. The maternal-fetal bond is living proof of the quantum aspects of our existence.

To deny that no psychic damage occurs is surely a sign of dis-congruency and ignorance. When our separateness is guided by the ego driven conscious mind, the soul connected subconscious wrangles in dis-congruent conflict. Obviously a condition that inflicts many a soul. And obviously a incubator of dis-ease.

Your/our only hope is that through the courage of addressing this topic more and more, we will collect more "clear congruent souls" till the critical mass shifts the collective psyche.

Any mother that has smelled the hair, skin, breath of their genetic offspring would never respond with vitriol aimed at the simple spiritual question you raised. This is not a religious argument, it is a spiritual one. It is a argument about the fabic and foundation of our souls. Keep up the good work.

Regards, [name withheld by me]

I wanted to give you some positive feedback re your article. Thank you for being the “naked Dr” that you are and a seeking person. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your article. I am an aware person and I “know” when I conceived my two sons who are now 19 and 24. The energy at the time when my late husband and were making love was different and I could sense it. It is a wonderful knowledge for me to know that these two beings were created through love.

Bruce Lipton on a visit to NZ last year showed the response of a fetus in the womb to its parents having an argument. It is incredible to be able to see this reaction and what a shock it is to the fetus.

PS I also had a miscarriage in between my sons and I could sense the spirit in the room with me for a time.

While I haven't yet received my copy, I can tell you this from every cell in my being. There is no pain no shame no guilt like abortion. And while there is pain and shame and guilt in stillbirth, having been through both, it's not the same.

With a stillborn, you feel guilty because you think you did something wrong. (You didn't get enough rest, you didn't eat right, you lifted that heavy thing, the list goes on and on).

With an abortion, you know you did something wrong. It might have felt like your only option at the time because you were scared, but you knew deeep down, it was wrong... even if at the time, it felt like the right thing to do...Maybe it's possible that some weren't meant to come all the way, but how do we know that?

Any woman who vehemently denies this is either so toxic to the point of being apathetic or so torn apart by the guilt, they simply are not strong enough to acknowledge it to themselves, let alone anyone else. Thank you for daring to go to this uncharted, unscientific territory.

We live in a throw away society, we've been brainwashed to the point where we've forgotten how to think out of the box. For over a hundred years, we've been manipulated, played for fools, raped, and had our heritage stolen from us- many of us before we were even born.

It's time to call a spade a spade. It's time to right the wrongs, step out of the box (the cage, the rat race) and take a good hard look at this world we've helped create, even if much of it was, through our blinded ignorance and fear. And sometimes, the only way to do that- "is" by going into unchartered, unscientific territories.

Sometimes, the only way to sort through all the pain and misery, is to go back to the very beginning of it. Name it, claim it, and somehow make your peace with it. And the only way to name it and claim it is to acknowledge it! You can't change the past.......but you can change the "now". But only by being brave enough to delve into areas that many would rather pretend didn't exist.

And on behalf of all those women who are angry that you dared to open pandora's box, thank you. Having been raised in a pandora's box where the truth was not allowed, it took every bit of strength I had just to get up every morning.

Ps I also had a miscarriage in between my sons and I could sense the spirit in the room with me for a time.

I have thoroughly listened to the Lost Children's call with Gwen......LOVE IT!!! I sooooo wish I could have been a caller....I would have spoken freely.....

I have ordered her book and should recieve it next week sometime.....Thank you sooooo Much.....for getting into the nitty gritty and pulling up hope for us all.....

I did get shivers reading it as I have had 3 miscarriages, the second one was
twins. I have never read anything in relation to the souls before and when I was
reading it, I knew in it to be true but did not want to think about it.

It is too painful to bring to the surface and so I carry on being busy with life.
I have 4 boys now, all healthy. Although, I think of the lost babies a lot.
During one of the miscarriages I had a sensation of leaving my body and crying
just before the operation and the child going through a tunnel and it was dark-no
light. I was waiting at the entrance looking through. With tears in my eyes, I could not enter.
I do believe it was the baby's soul leaving me and I could not go as it was not my time.

So when I read your report, it gave me shivers-happy shivers.
Thanks Keith for that. It made me think of the experience in a positive way.

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